12-27-2009, 10:13 AM
While I am working on new unoffical kislev army list i use many house rules to try remain loyal to offical (at least semi offical, very few give permission to field Stand alone kislev army even they are the weakest of the weaks 
( ) kislev army list have some house made modifications (instead of giving them additional special rules).
Here is the step by step guide. Each step is one step away to offical list so keep that in your mind.
Step 1
*Use points of Common magical items from 7th edition Empire Army book (this is also seems to be offical)
*reduce boyars point to 80 from 90 (so you will have 10 additional free points)
*fix points of equipments boyar can have according to 7th edition Empire army book. I mean they take pistol for 6 points (same with 7th edtion empire captain) instead of 7 points.
*give light armour to ungol horse archers and kislev kossars
*make ungol horse archer's champion & kislev kossar champion to have +1 BS & +1 A instead of just +1 A (like many dark elf champions)
*reduce kin of bear god mark's point to 20 from 30 and let one kislev kossar unit to have it without fielding Boris Rodhi
*incleare Initiative of Winged Lancers to 4 from 3 (their Initiative value at 5th edition is 4 also this give you slight advantage against Skavens)
*reduce Winged lancers points to 23 from 24 and Grpyhon legion's points to 25 from 26.
*Gryphon Legion champion can take pistal as an addition for +3 points instead of replacing lance
Step 2
While Kislev have their own Lore (lore of Ice) but no wizard except special character (Tzarina Katarina). So why not we can't use Lore of Ice.
Secondly Kislev has no lord character except special character. Here is the additions to field those characters
*Use vanilla 7th edition empire wizards (Battle Wizard -65pts- and Wizard lord -175pts-). They take mundane equipments&mounts (warhorse and barding) and Level upgrades with as in 7th edition empire army book
Use Ice Maiden/Frost Mage(for Battle Wizard) and Ice Witch/Frost Mage Lord (Wizard Lord) names for fluff. They can only use Lore of Ice.
They can only use common magic items like all kislev characters.
Lastly to fit them more kislev facion and suitable to their wizard list give them +1 WS and +1 Ld (so Hero Wizard has WS4 Ld8 and Lord Wizard has WS4 Ld9). This makes them more suitable with Ice 3 spell Form of Frostfiend which will probably made for Tzarina Katarina which has high leadership and WS4. And also as a fluff it is more suitable (Ice maidens and witches are good leaders and fighters after all)
*For Kislev lord use vanilla Hireling General from Dogs of War and give him stubborn ability and increase his point to 120 from 90.
For fluff name that character Pulkmaster/General of Kislev.
He can take equipments only avalaible to kislev boyar and use points values of these items from 7th edition empire armybook General of empire options.
he can only use common magic items like all kislev characters.
now we got some characters....
you can have one additional Grpyhon Legion unit (0-2) if you have Pulkmaster as General but for fluff you can limit number of gryphon legion units up to number of winged lancer units.
Step 3
*While Erengard is also know for their artilery and in 4th-5th edition kislev take cannons also it mentioned in 6th edition kislev army book let your army field Cannon as rare choice same as Dogs of War
*And lastly Streltsi. Well known kislev handgunners. there are background stories info fluff in many books and includes in mordheim. you can let your army field Streltsi as a special choice.
Use same stats with kislev kossar and special rules (steady in ranks). but they can not take kin of bear god mark. replace their bow with handgun and great axe with halberd (so they have light armour, handgun&halberd). give them +1 bonus while shooting (same one from mordheim streltsi). and raise their points to 10 from 9.
now you got rare and special choices.
for fluff stuff you can limit number of streltsi units up to number of kossar units.
Well that's all. meanwhile as I said before ( let me check ahhh yeah I said
) I am also working on full Kislev army too.
thanks for reading
( ) kislev army list have some house made modifications (instead of giving them additional special rules).Here is the step by step guide. Each step is one step away to offical list so keep that in your mind.
Step 1
*Use points of Common magical items from 7th edition Empire Army book (this is also seems to be offical)
*reduce boyars point to 80 from 90 (so you will have 10 additional free points)
*fix points of equipments boyar can have according to 7th edition Empire army book. I mean they take pistol for 6 points (same with 7th edtion empire captain) instead of 7 points.
*give light armour to ungol horse archers and kislev kossars
*make ungol horse archer's champion & kislev kossar champion to have +1 BS & +1 A instead of just +1 A (like many dark elf champions)
*reduce kin of bear god mark's point to 20 from 30 and let one kislev kossar unit to have it without fielding Boris Rodhi
*incleare Initiative of Winged Lancers to 4 from 3 (their Initiative value at 5th edition is 4 also this give you slight advantage against Skavens)
*reduce Winged lancers points to 23 from 24 and Grpyhon legion's points to 25 from 26.
*Gryphon Legion champion can take pistal as an addition for +3 points instead of replacing lance
Step 2
While Kislev have their own Lore (lore of Ice) but no wizard except special character (Tzarina Katarina). So why not we can't use Lore of Ice.
Secondly Kislev has no lord character except special character. Here is the additions to field those characters
*Use vanilla 7th edition empire wizards (Battle Wizard -65pts- and Wizard lord -175pts-). They take mundane equipments&mounts (warhorse and barding) and Level upgrades with as in 7th edition empire army book
Use Ice Maiden/Frost Mage(for Battle Wizard) and Ice Witch/Frost Mage Lord (Wizard Lord) names for fluff. They can only use Lore of Ice.
They can only use common magic items like all kislev characters.
Lastly to fit them more kislev facion and suitable to their wizard list give them +1 WS and +1 Ld (so Hero Wizard has WS4 Ld8 and Lord Wizard has WS4 Ld9). This makes them more suitable with Ice 3 spell Form of Frostfiend which will probably made for Tzarina Katarina which has high leadership and WS4. And also as a fluff it is more suitable (Ice maidens and witches are good leaders and fighters after all)
*For Kislev lord use vanilla Hireling General from Dogs of War and give him stubborn ability and increase his point to 120 from 90.
For fluff name that character Pulkmaster/General of Kislev.
He can take equipments only avalaible to kislev boyar and use points values of these items from 7th edition empire armybook General of empire options.
he can only use common magic items like all kislev characters.
now we got some characters....
you can have one additional Grpyhon Legion unit (0-2) if you have Pulkmaster as General but for fluff you can limit number of gryphon legion units up to number of winged lancer units.
Step 3
*While Erengard is also know for their artilery and in 4th-5th edition kislev take cannons also it mentioned in 6th edition kislev army book let your army field Cannon as rare choice same as Dogs of War
*And lastly Streltsi. Well known kislev handgunners. there are background stories info fluff in many books and includes in mordheim. you can let your army field Streltsi as a special choice.
Use same stats with kislev kossar and special rules (steady in ranks). but they can not take kin of bear god mark. replace their bow with handgun and great axe with halberd (so they have light armour, handgun&halberd). give them +1 bonus while shooting (same one from mordheim streltsi). and raise their points to 10 from 9.
now you got rare and special choices.
for fluff stuff you can limit number of streltsi units up to number of kossar units.
Well that's all. meanwhile as I said before ( let me check ahhh yeah I said
) I am also working on full Kislev army too.thanks for reading